Adverse Response to Exercise in 10% Individuals According to Recent Study

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scientificamerican.com - Ultra Marathons Might Be Ultra Bad for your Heart
By Katherine Harmon. June 4, 2012
blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/06/04/ultra-marathons-might-be-ultra-bad-for-your-heart

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<<The researchers found that many of these athletes had temporarily elevated levels of substances that promote inflammation and cardiac damage. One study found that as many as half of runners in the midst of, or who have just finished, a marathon show these spikes, which can last for days after an event. And over time and with repeated exposure, these compounds can lead to scarring of the heart and its main arteries as well as to enlarged ventricles—all of which can in turn lead to dangerous irregular heart beats (arrhythmia) and possibly sudden cardiac death.>>

<<Earlier this year ultra runner Micah True, also known as Caballo Blanco, made famous by Christopher McDougall’s book Born to Run (Knopf, 2009) for running with the Tarahumara tribes in Mexico, died at the age of 58 while on a relatively short trail run. The medical report concluded that he had a scarred, enlarged heart and likely died from arrhythmia.>>

<<Screening for factors to find people who might be at a particular risk so far is unproven and would likely be expensive. So the researchers suggest that athletes dial back intense exercise to about an hour per day (sessions can be longer if exercise is less rigorous) or at least have regular visits with their doctors to check up on their heart health.>>

<<An analysis published May 30 in PLoS ONE [1] also highlights potential downsides of exercise for some people. Claude Bouchard of the Human Genomics Laboratory at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge Louisiana, and his colleagues report that in many exercise studies, moderate to intense exercise elevated one or more indicators of risk for cardiac disease or diabetes in a subset (about 10 percent) of the population in the analysis. The authors did not follow the subjects to see if these people were actually more likely to have poor health outcomes, however. And for the rest of the subjects, most of them saw improvements in these risk factors.

But the new findings do not negate the benefits of regular exercise for most people. It adds an average of seven extra years of life expectancy, and it also increases the likelihood that people will spend more of those years relatively trim and in good health. “Exercise is one of the most important things you need to do on a daily basis,” O’Keefe said. But, he noted, “extreme exercise is not really conductive to great cardiovascular health. Beyond 30 to 60 minutes per day, you reach a point of diminishing returns.”

Indeed, a long-term study of 52,000 runners found that those who ran one to 20 miles a week spaced out over two to five days and at an 8.5- to 10-minute mile lived longest.>>
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1. Reference paper:

- Bouchard C, Blair SN, Church TS, Earnest CP, Hagberg JM, et al. (2012) Adverse Metabolic Response to Regular Exercise: Is It a Rare or Common Occurrence? PLoS ONE 7(5): e37887. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0037887
plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0037887

ABSTRACT

Background
Individuals differ in the response to regular exercise. Whether there are people who experience adverse changes in cardiovascular and diabetes risk factors has never been addressed.

Methodology/Principal Findings
An adverse response is defined as an exercise-induced change that worsens a risk factor beyond measurement error and expected day-to-day variation. Sixty subjects were measured three times over a period of three weeks, and variation in resting systolic blood pressure (SBP) and in fasting plasma HDL-cholesterol (HDL-C), triglycerides (TG), and insulin (FI) was quantified. The technical error (TE) defined as the within-subject standard deviation derived from these measurements was computed. An adverse response for a given risk factor was defined as a change that was at least two TEs away from no change but in an adverse direction. Thus an adverse response was recorded if an increase reached 10 mm Hg or more for SBP, 0.42 mmol/L or more for TG, or 24 pmol/L or more for FI or if a decrease reached 0.12 mmol/L or more for HDL-C. Completers from six exercise studies were used in the present analysis: Whites (N = 473) and Blacks (N = 250) from the HERITAGE Family Study; Whites and Blacks from DREW (N = 326), from INFLAME (N = 70), and from STRRIDE (N = 303); and Whites from a University of Maryland cohort (N = 160) and from a University of Jyvaskyla study (N = 105), for a total of 1,687 men and women. Using the above definitions, 126 subjects (8.4%) had an adverse change in FI. Numbers of adverse responders reached 12.2% for SBP, 10.4% for TG, and 13.3% for HDL-C. About 7% of participants experienced adverse responses in two or more risk factors.

Conclusions/Significance
Adverse responses to regular exercise in cardiovascular and diabetes risk factors occur. Identifying the predictors of such unwarranted responses and how to prevent them will provide the foundation for personalized exercise prescription.

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we have a saying here that goes everything with "too"in front isn't good.Lot's of talk here about TMTS ,there also something like too much all the time.
I know guys that get sent home from competition because their heartrates are too low...these are people that've been training and competing all their lives and they still can't see that in fact they're not doing that well.
 
we have a saying here that goes everything with "too"in front isn't good.Lot's of talk here about TMTS ,there also something like too much all the time.
I know guys that get sent home from competition because their heartrates are too low...these are people that've been training and competing all their lives and they still can't see that in fact they're not doing that well.

I know guys that get sent home from competition because their heartrates are too low
- Is severe bradycardia always symptom of a pathology?
I have "suffered" bradycardia since my teens (due to left ventricular hypertrophy according to ECG results) and no doctor has ever recommended against the practice of endurance exercise.
 
- Is severe bradycardia always symptom of a pathology?
I have "suffered" bradycardia since my teens (due to left ventricular hypertrophy according to ECG results) and no doctor has ever recommended against the practice of endurance exercise.

I'm not making any medical statements,the thing is that when atletes take the pre-competition medical(for instance the tour de france) there's a limit of about 30BPM.If you're below that you can't enter the race,this beca
 
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I'm not making any medical statements,the thing is that when atletes take the pre-competition medical(for instance the tour de france) there's a limit of about 30BPM.If you're below that you can't enter the race,this beca
because of guys like that falling of their bikes in the past.You've a condition,there'll always be exceptions.I think that we can agree that living with a very low heartrate is n't good for anybody.These test exist to (hopefully)detect heartproblems in athletes before they topple over in competetion.
 
<<Screening for factors to find people who might be at a particular risk so far is unproven and would likely be expensive. So the researchers suggest that athletes dial back intense exercise to about an hour per day (sessions can be longer if exercise is less rigorous) or at least have regular visits with their doctors to check up on their heart health.>>

I am curious as to what specifically the difference between intense and less rigorous is?

An analysis published May 30 in PLoS ONE [1] also highlights potential downsides of exercise for some people. Claude Bouchard of the Human Genomics Laboratory at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge Louisiana, and his colleagues report that in many exercise studies, moderate to intense exercise elevated one or more indicators of risk for cardiac disease or diabetes in a subset (about 10 percent) of the population in the analysis. The authors did not follow the subjects to see if these people were actually more likely to have poor health outcomes, however. And for the rest of the subjects, most of them saw improvements in these risk factors.

This doesn't make sense to me either, 90% of people see improvements but the recomendation is based on 10% that see levated risk indicators?
 
This doesn't make sense to me either, 90% of people see improvements but the recommendation is based on 10% that see levated risk indicators?

My guess is that the recommendation is instead probably based on the results of this other study:

<<A new study, published online June 4 in Mayo Clinic Proceedings, suggests, however, that this “excessive endurance exercise” might actually be putting people at risk for permanent heart damage and possibly lethal cardiovascular events.>>

- I've tried to find this paper but the June issue is not yet available in the journal's website: http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/current
Journalists often have access to articles that haven't yet been published. Probably the paper will be available in a few days.
As for the link included here: "possibly lethal cardiovascular events": http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=study-sheds-light-on-hidd

<<For young athletes, the leading cause of sudden death is a heart disease known as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which affects one in 500 people. New research suggests the condition can develop from a single genetic mutation that halts production of its associated protein and disrupts the manufacture of two additional proteins. The findings, published online today by the journal Nature,illustrate for the first time that the protein cardiac troponin T (Tnnt2) is essential for a beating heart.
Genetic defects are thought to be responsible for half of all cases of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and previous research had identified mutations in the TNNT2 gene in 15 percent of these occurrences.>>

- The estimated incidence of that serious condition is/was "only" 0.2%, much lower than 10%. So it wouldn't be significant enough to recommend against the practice of "excessive endurance exercise" to the general population.

The only place where a 10% of population mentioned in the SciAm article is here:

<<An analysis published May 30 in PLoS ONE also highlights potential downsides of exercise for some people. Claude Bouchard of the Human Genomics Laboratory at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge Louisiana, and his colleagues report that in many exercise studies, moderate to intense exercise elevated one or more indicators of risk for cardiac disease or diabetes in a subset (about 10 percent) of the population in the analysis. The authors did not follow the subjects to see if these people were actually more likely to have poor health outcomes, however. And for the rest of the subjects, most of them saw improvements in these risk factors.>>

- As we can also find in the paper of reference:

<<The prevalence of ARs for select risk factors varied from 8.3% for the exercise training-induced changes in FI to 13.3% for the changes in HDL-C, with about 7% of participants experiencing adverse changes in two or more risk factors. This subgroup should receive urgent attention. The prevalence of ARs appears to be similar at low and high doses of exercise. However, we do not know whether some adverse responders would revert to a more positive response pattern if exposed to different exercise doses or exercise modalities.>>
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0037887

Nevertheless, those other variables, systolic blood pressure (SBP), insulin (FI), triglycerides (TG), fasting HDL-Cholesterol, can be monitored to determine which people may be better avoiding the practice of exercise in case that the negative effect is these results are reproduced in other studies, and more importantly, if such negative effect is also observed to persist during the regular practice of exercise for much longer periods of time than the period studied here:

<<Sixty subjects were measured three times over a period of three weeks>>

Perhaps three months, or three years. A year would be probably conclusive enough.

As for the "new study, published online June 4 in Mayo Clinic Proceedings," all we know is the following:

<<“A routine of daily physical activity can be highly effective for prevention and treatment of many diseases, including coronary heart disease, hypertension, heart failure and obesity,” James O’Keefe, of the Mid-America Heart Institute of Saint Luke’s Hospital of Kansas City and co-author of the study, said in a prepared statement. But after reviewing the literature on extreme-endurance event participants, he and his colleagues found evidence that over time this type of training might be changing people’s hearts—and not for the better.
The researchers found that many of these athletes had temporarily elevated levels of substances that promote inflammation and cardiac damage. One study found that as many as half of runners in the midst of, or who have just finished, a marathon show these spikes, which can last for days after an event. And over time and with repeated exposure, these compounds can lead to scarring of the heart and its main arteries as well as to enlarged ventricles—all of which can in turn lead to dangerous irregular heart beats (arrhythmia) and possibly sudden cardiac death.
“Physical exercise, though not a drug, possesses many traits of a powerful pharmacologic agent,” O’Keefe said. “As with any pharmacologic agent, a safe upper dose limit potentially exists, beyond which the adverse effects of physical exercise, such as musculoskeletal trauma and cardiovascular stress, may outweigh its benefits.”>>

- So the prevalence of adverse effects may actually be near 50% in the case of "excessive endurance exercise" that we can provisionally define as any physical exercise of an intensity and duration similar (or even lower) than the usually applied to run a marathon.

I am curious as to what specifically the difference between intense and less rigorous is?

- The running pace?

Another local runner here passed away from heart complications on a run? It is a sad story. Maybe these studies are accurate?

- John Greer and Michael Hickman shared several traits in common. Both were in their 50s, both had been running ultra-marathons for decades at a nearly elite level, and both died from an underlying heart condition that they were unaware they had (idiopathic cardiomyopathy in the case of Hickman). I can see a likely relation between the prolonged and intensive physical stress to which both had been exposed during their lives and their underlying heart condition.


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BTW, has the Runner's World's Barefoot Running Forum been permanently shut down? Yesterday there was no access to any forum (allegedly due to massive spam attack), but at least the other forums were still listed.
 
I really don't know what is going on at RW. I haven't visited over there in a while because their forum drives my computer nuts? There is a thread here in the pub about it.

Wow I am trying to find the study, but it is alarming. Are we the only two really concerned about this?

I was thinking more of a safe heart rate range instead of pace? However the recomendation for excercise greater in duration than an hour is probably walking not running. As any excercise over duration would naturally raise your heart rate over time.

Hey maybe this guy isn't so crazy after all.
 
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Vanessa Runs: "This is combined with the fact that there is no concrete evidence that ultra running caused Micah’s death. Some doctors even told Maria that ultra running may well have extended his life."

- There is no concrete evidence that boxing has actually caused Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali's Parkinson's syndrome either. After all, some of Clay's relatives may have also probably suffered the same disease without having practiced boxing. In fact, there may well be concrete evidence (the autopsy), but it hasn't been published. As for those some doctors' comments, I will only take them seriously the day they are published in a medical journal or some official document.

Vanessa Runs: "Instead, this will be used as argument against long distance running. An excuse for staying home. A justification for a crappy lifestyle."

- There are many other alternatives to long distance running apart from staying at home. That article is not even arguing against all kind of long distance running (after all, even 10 miles is already considered as a long distance), it rather warns readers about a possible negative effect of ultra-long-distance running when regularly practiced at a competitive level during extended periods of your life, that happens to be what she practices.
Her rant is comparable to a mountaineer complaining about an article warning on the dangers of frost-bite in the climbing sport, or a scuba diver trying to debunk an article on decompression sickness and the cumulative damage caused years of decompressions on your brain and other organs. Every sport has its downsides but she seems unwilling to accept that the ultramarathons may also harm your health like many other competitive sports or even the noncompetitive ones like scuba diving (I know, there are probably competitions in scuba diving too).
Her arguments won't help reduce any of those possible negative effects. In contrast, increased awareness may do it. It could encourage the development of techniques to assess the condition of your heart, training routines to minimize the agents harmful to your heart or new therapies to neutralize their effect. It's hard that the ostrich strategy can promote any future improvement.
 
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<<Rochester, MN, June 4, 2012 – Micah True, legendary ultra-marathoner, died suddenly while on a routine 12-mile training run March 27, 2012. The mythic Caballo Blanco in the best-selling book, Born to Run, True would run as far as 100 miles in a day. On autopsy his heart was enlarged and scarred; he died of a lethal arrhythmia (irregularity of the heart rhythm). Although speculative, the pathologic changes in the heart of this 58 year-old veteran extreme endurance athlete may have been manifestations of "Phidippides cardiomyopathy," a condition caused by chronic excessive endurance exercise.
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Dr. O'Keefe and his colleagues present emerging data suggesting that extreme endurance training can cause transient structural cardiovascular changes and elevations of cardiac biomarkers, all of which return to normal within one week. For some individuals, over months and years of repetitive injury, this process can lead to the development of patchy myocardial fibrosis, particularly in the atria, interventricular septum, and right ventricle, and an increased susceptibility to atrial and ventricular arrhythmias. In one study, approximately 12% of apparently healthy marathon runners showed evidence for patchy myocardial scarring, and the coronary heart disease event rate during a two-year follow up was significantly higher in marathon runners than in controls.
Although it has been recognized that elite-level athletes commonly develop abnormal electrocardiograms and atrial and ventricular entropy, these adaptations traditionally have not been thought to predispose to serious arrhythmias or sudden cardiac death. However, it now appears that the cardiac remodeling induced by excessive exercise can lead to rhythm abnormalities. Endurance sports such as ultramarathon running or professional cycling have been associated with as much as a 5-fold increase in the prevalence of atrial fibrillation.
Chronic excessive sustained exercise may also be associated with coronary artery calcification, diastolic dysfunction, and large-artery wall stiffening.
In a video interview accompanying the article, Dr. O'Keefe stresses that the report does not detract from the importance of physical exercise. "Physically active people are much healthier than their sedentary counterparts. Exercise is one of the most important things you need to do on a daily basis," he explains. "But what this paper points out is that a lot of people do not understand that the lion's share of health benefits accrue at a relatively modest level. Extreme exercise is not really conducive to great cardiovascular health. Beyond 30-60 minutes per day, you reach a point of diminishing returns.">>
Source: Elsevier Health Sciences
 
Yeah it's too bad people become so defensive when something they enjoy turns out to be potentially dangerous. What baffles me is how many people take these recomendations the wrong way. They either go overboard (sorry Jason) or they feel like it gives them an excuse to not run. When you actually read the study the first paragraph states that you should excercise just possibly not as much as some ultrarunners. Maybe we can con Jason and Vanessa to chime in for a difference of opinion?
 
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they feel like it gives them an excuse to not run.
- If some people are looking for an excuse not to run it may well be that they don't actually enjoy running, therefore they would better off not running and instead they practiced something they really enjoy: hiking, cycling, swimming, basketball, paddling, tennis, skating, ultimate frisbee, etc.
Wasn't this the message Chris McDougall wanted to spread in his lectures/speeches? That running shouldn't be forced to anyone, simply practiced for the joy of it.
 

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