Aspire to run at least one 100 in your life

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Tristan-OH said:
Hey Jason, does there happen to be any trail ultras in the Adirondacks or the Whites? Just curious.
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These might be what you're looking for.....

http://www.virgilcrestultras.com/
http://jaypeaktrailrun.com/50k_ultra_trail_race
http://wapacktrailrace.com/
http://www.wapack.freeservers.com/
http://www.vermont50.com/
http://www.mountwashingtonroadrace.com/
http://www.vermont100.com
http://www.wakelydamultra.com/


Wapack and Back is not recommended. I hear it is not fun. And Wakely Dam is kind of a Fat Ass event.
I'm doing Jay Peak this year.

My understanding is that there are access issues with races in the Adirondacks and Whites. If you are a reasonably well-connected New England or Central NY ultrarunner, though, you can typically find people willing to plan a running trip up there.
 
#22
Awesome thanks Silly! Not that I'll be doing them anytime soon but something to set my goals on. I'm definitely not a well-connected anything with those areas anymore though... I moved to Ohio in '96 and only go back once a year now in recent years. I had heard of the Lake Placid Ironman but I cant really swim for crap so I dont think I'll ever be doing those kind of events. And I had actually read an article a couple weeks ago in The Adirondack Explorer on trail running. The article went into some detail on a book written about running in the 'dacks... I could only find it available at just a few outdoor gear kind of places like http://m.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=13015662 I may just have to get it, and start visiting my old stomping grounds more often.
 
#23
Tristan, you also might enjoy this piece by Ben Nephew:
http://team.inov-8.us/2010/10/great-range-traverse-by-ben-nephew_05.html

Personally, I think running in the Adirondacks is kind of a waste. A lot of what I've seen in the high peaks region is completely unrunnable. So why bother pretending to run if you're going to end up hiking most of it anyway? IMO, I'd prefer to commit to a hike, and chill at the summit with a thermos of coffee and some brownies.
 
#24
Thanks Tristan, I'll check out the link. I think ultra hiking is in my future. When the kids are out of the nest, I have been thinking about the Arizona Trail, a trail system that runs lengthwise border to border. I talked to a guy in the Grand Canyon that was doing it. I love Arizona and unless the Oregon guys can convince me to come up there, Arizona is the place for me.
 
#25
Rick, you could hike and/or run the Pacific Crest Trail which is a goal of mine some day. It stretches from Canada down through Washington, OREGON, California, into Mexico. I really hope someday I can hike the whole thing. I hiked a small portion 3 years ago with my Step-dad and brother here in Oregon by Crater Lake and it was amazing.
 
#26
NickW said:
Rick, you could hike and/or run the Pacific Crest Trail which is a goal of mine some day. It stretches from Canada down through Washington, OREGON, California, into Mexico. I really hope someday I can hike the whole thing. I hiked a small portion 3 years ago with my Step-dad and brother here in Oregon by Crater Lake and it was amazing.
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Yep, gotta put that one on my list too. So much to do, so little time. If I could ever get into biking, maybe a run/hike/bike combo would work on some of those longer trails.
 
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I hear you Rick. I really want to check out your area too before I kick it. I've only seen Utah from the sky and airport in Salt Lake. My step-dad, brother and I try to do a hike in a national forest every year. We are trying to hit as many as we can. This years trip got cancelled due to my step-dads bad case of gout that he's been battling for over a year now. It had flared up just before our trip last year to Yosemite, but stubborn as he is he still went and my brother and I had to take turns helping carry his pack and setting up his tent. We really didn't do as much hiking as normal last year because of that, but it's ok because we got to be out, away from technology, and enjoying the outdoors. This year was supposed to be Glacier Park in MT, but I think it's just postponed till next year. I'm actually from just outside of Glacier Park originally, but none of us have ever done much camping or backpacking there so we really wanted to do this trip.
 
#29
rickwhitelaw said:
OK. Everyone stop mentioning places, my list is getting too long;). I got close to Glacier Park, but didn't go in. Beautiful country up there. I'm thinking about an RV and living like Jason in about 10 years. My wife would love it.
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I would love to do that too. Unfortunately that is probably much farther off than 10 years for me...
 
#31
SillyC said:
Tristan, you also might enjoy this piece by Ben Nephew:
http://team.inov-8.us/2010/10/great-range-traverse-by-ben-nephew_05.html

Personally, I think running in the Adirondacks is kind of a waste. A lot of what I've seen in the high peaks region is completely unrunnable. So why bother pretending to run if you're going to end up hiking most of it anyway? IMO, I'd prefer to commit to a hike, and chill at the summit with a thermos of coffee and some brownies.
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I'd agree... I enjoy taking my time and hiking, stopping plenty to take pics, and sometimes being out for a couple or few days at a time.

I'm not sure since I dont have that book yet I linked too, but I'm pretty sure the book focuses on more runnable trails, not the high peaks. I couldnt imagine running a lot of those, the great range especially! One example given in the article I read was on a few backcountry trails that looped around a lake that was in between forestport and old forge I think it was. I might get the book anyhow just to check it out.
 
#34
Tristan-OH said:
I'd agree... I enjoy taking my time and hiking, stopping plenty to take pics, and sometimes being out for a couple or few days at a time.

I'm not sure since I dont have that book yet I linked too, but I'm pretty sure the book focuses on more runnable trails, not the high peaks. I couldnt imagine running a lot of those, the great range especially! One example given in the article I read was on a few backcountry trails that looped around a lake that was in between forestport and old forge I think it was. I might get the book anyhow just to check it out.
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I'm sure the book is worthwhile. I imagine most of the trails that people use for backcountry skiing are fantastic to run on.
 
#36
No interest at all to run a 100 miles. Maybe a 50 someday, but those distances to me would seem boring, my mind is forked already, why try to torture it more and mosey on along forever. Beside the elite ultra runners, who actually is running a 100 miles anyways? No one.

I actually like the atmosphere of a marathon or races in general, I am not fast but it gets my blood boiling. I think people who instantly turn to ultra's are scared of competition and competing.
 
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#37
Barefoot Gentile said:
No interest at all to run a 100 miles. Maybe a 50 someday, but those distances to me would seem boring, my mind is forked already, why try to torture it more and mosey on along forever. Beside the elite ultra runners, who actually is running a 100 miles anyways? No one.

I actually like the atmosphere of a marathon or races in general, I am not fast but it gets my blood boiling. I think people who instantly turn to ultra's are scared of competition and competing.
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Do any non-runners run more than a few feet at a time?

And ultras ARE races with competition... just a shit ton more variables to manage.
 
#38
Last Place Jason said:
If you're hangin' around the ultra forum, you're probably at least ultra-curious. While running any ultra distance is a great experience, try running at least one 100 miler in your life. Fifty k's, 50 milers, even 100k's are great experiences, but they're still races. Hundos... they're an adventure. It's impossible to extrapolate the experience of the shorter races to the hundred miler. It will change you.

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we don't even have a 100miler in belgium!:D
 
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#40
Barefoot Gentile said:
I actually like the atmosphere of a marathon or races in general, I am not fast but it gets my blood boiling. I think people who instantly turn to ultra's are scared of competition and competing.
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I dunno - are you aware of the existence of adventure races? Those are real races, at the other end of the spectrum from a road race. Some of the top ultrarunners come from an adventure racing background. I got into ultras instead of road marathons because I am cheap, I like hiking, and I looooove Gummy Bears. (The last one was the deciding factor for me. "They hand out Gummy Bears?!?!?! Okay! I'm in!") The main reason I've not done a road marathon yet is they just don't seem worth the money. At no point has fear influenced my decision to not run a road marathon.

I'm not setting a 100 mile as a goal, personally, because I don't want to deal with getting a crew together. It's difficult to recruit anyone to even look you in the eye in New England! My mental game isn't there, either.
 
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