Mouth is for eating nose is for breathing

I did my 7 mile trot home last night only breathing nasally at about 8.25 pace and 121 AHR - it was very relaxing!

I try and do most of my running at a relaxed, stress-free, pace - a few of my most recent runs have been a little less contained in celebration of the autumnal weather we've been enjoying.
 
I did my 7 mile trot home last night only breathing nasally at about 8.25 pace and 121 AHR - it was very relaxing!

I try and do most of my running at a relaxed, stress-free, pace - a few of my most recent runs have been a little less contained in celebration of the autumnal weather we've been enjoying.


Lol Chris most of us are hunkering down getting ready for Winter when the autumn comes but you speed up!
 
Your right it would be interesting to experiment for a while. The in through the nose out through the mouth seems to be a little bit easier while running and biking for me, likely due to the nasal widening that happens when I breathe in.

Thanks for the research Abide, I especially liked Jureks revelations that nose breathing is 'a practice not a competition'. I think that's where my headspace is with it now.
 
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Lol Chris most of us are hunkering down getting ready for Winter when the autumn comes but you speed up!
After a hot and humid summer in NYC (and this year was not) running in the Autumn is always a delight.
There's a good reason why the major marathon's in the US are held in Spring and Fall.
 
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After a hot and humid summer in NYC (and this year was not) running in the Autumn is always a delight.
There's a good reason why the major marathon's in the US are held in Spring and Fall.


I here you Chris, as i write this here in the UK there is a thunderstorm outside with very high humidity and warnings of a sticky night ahead in the middle of september. Crazy weather.
 
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http://www.outsideonline.com/fitnes...ld-I-Breathe-Through-My-Nose-or-My-Mouth.html
2 to 3 times your resting breathing rate, I wonder if that's also comparable to 2-3 times your resting heart rate.

Today I ran 3 miles flat trails and 3 miles rolling pavement doing nose breathing at a comfortable breathing rate...the trail part came out at 2.5 times resting heartrate and the pavement part came out at 2.75 times resting heartrate so for me this works out pretty good both were at or below my Maff heartrates also.
 
I started nasal breathing last summer during the off season. It was rough at first and I felt I wasn't getting enough air when I went faster than 5min/km. I can now run under 4min/km and still nose breather comfortably. At 3:45/km it becomes more difficult and at 3:30/km I resort to opening my mouth. I try to nose breathe even during speed work so I can breathe through my nose even more during races. I like to nose breathe during races for at least the first part so I don't go out too fast and to also conserve water so I don't have to stop at the water aid stations, especially for the shorter races. I have found it hard to nose breathe when descending mountains as I feel like the air is automatically pushed out of my lungs with each step.
 
I can run and nose breath at 3xs my resting hr. 180. It's at 190 that i have to start exhaling out my mouth. Just because a scientist says something isn't possible doesn't mean that it isn't. You don't know the entire history of their subjects.

I keep forgetting to add you need a certain amount of CO2 in your body for the O2 to offload easier. The body is always looking for the perfect balance. Mouth breathing will get rid of too mich CO2 making you increase your breathing to try to get in more O2. Nose breathing will hold in more CO2 so you'll have to exhale through the mouth evry so often to bring the mix into better balance.

I get somewhat high racing. I don't know if it's the higher O2 or CO2. Either way i feel great. :)

Thanks ske. Trying to just pass on things i've learned. I in no way know it all and ask to please smack me if i ever claim to know it all. I try to be flexible with my beliefs. Being rigid does one no good. If i learn of something that topples my previous beliefs, i'll change. After i get off the floor from laughing and realizing how wrong i was. Adaption is necessary in life.

It also would be no problem to email you that book or anyone else. It's on my computer that my mom is using so i won't get to it for two weeks. Going to cali saturday. I need a holiday. Passed all my tests so far. Must a patient interview with an actor tomoorow. Should be easy.
 
Shoot, a lot of people have benefited from this. I might have to place a moratorium on my 'just run' bylaw and give it a try. God help me, this could be a gateway to cadence counting, heart rate monitoring, knee bending, not pushing off, and all the rest.
Barefoot running is becoming just too complicated, isn't it.
I am just going to keep it simple as I have been doing and will just run for the pure pleasure of it.:barefoot:
 
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I am just going to keep it simple as I have been doing and will just run for the pure pleasure of it.:barefoot:

Same here. I think I will keep going with Bare Lee's 'just run' bylaw. Hopefully one day I even get to the point of getting rid of my last distraction (Garmin) as Barefoot Gentile did. Wish me luck :D
 
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Same here. I think I will keep going with Bare Lee's 'just run' bylaw. Hopefully one day I even get to the point of getting rid of my last distraction (Garmin) as Barefoot Gentile did. Wish me luck :D
I think the Garmin is good for getting an objective measure of the feel of different paces, but once you get that, I don't see any reason for it. It's also nice to run slowly without having any reminders of exactly how slow you're going! In general, I really enjoy running without looking down at it. Really frees me up mentally to just enjoy the run without any distraction and get feedback from my body. But I'm not training for anything and don't have any performances standards in mind. For a different kind of runner, I can see how running in the age of digital gadgetry would be a godsend. To each their own. I'll give the nasal breathing a go if it makes my running better, but on the other hand, I've placed a good deal of confidence in letting my body figure out the unconscious stuff on its own. We'll see . . .
 
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Same here. I think I will keep going with Bare Lee's 'just run' bylaw. Hopefully one day I even get to the point of getting rid of my last distraction (Garmin) as Barefoot Gentile did. Wish me luck :D
GOD LUCK!!!
You can do it! most of the times I run by time but the routes I run are known distances though-so I feel like cheating:D.
 
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I use a Garmin, but I use it mostly for just record keeping. I also run according to time, a simple out and back. If I don't make it to a certain point by a certain time (30min out), then I will usually cut the run short. It is also set to remind me to drink water or sports drink at 15min intervals.
 
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Lee, this "Just Run" approach sounds fascinating. I'd like to give it a try. I'd imagine that there might be a lot of variability in Just Running, given everyone's individual differences. To make sure that we're all in sync and doing the same Just Running, would you consider writing down some simple guidelines for Just Running?

Overarching themes would be best, such as fore/mid/rearfoot lateral/cental/medial landing patterns, callus and minshoe thickness, permissible cross-sectional air flow and turbulence through each nostril and mouth, artificial vs. synthetic clothing vs skin to air, heart rate, air temperature, asphalt quality, acceptable models of GPS watches, internal liver temperature. Just a few general guidelines would really be helpful! Thanks!!!
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I'd find i hard to stick a garmin up my nose.;)

If everyone in your tribe collected firewood and no one hunted the community would perish. Variety is important from technology to running free naked through the woods.

On a personal note i've decided to taper my running for this year and start again with my new found knowledge. I'm already excited about next season and feel i'm growing as a runner, so thanks to everyone for the inspiration and guidance. :)
 
GOD LUCK!!!
You can do it! most of the times I run by time but the routes I run are known distances though-so I feel like cheating:D.

Like you, I'm cheating a bit, because most of my viable routes were run with a Garmin last year, so I know the distances, or can consult them in my log. But Google Maps worked just fine before I got the Garmin too. Google gives you the distance down to one tenth of a mile, Garmin down to one hundredth. No biggie. Unfortunately Google Maps changed its format recently, making it less user-friendly, for this user at least. Destroyed my faith in progress.

Lee, this "Just Run" approach sounds fascinating. I'd like to give it a try. I'd imagine that there might be a lot of variability in Just Running, given everyone's individual differences. To make sure that we're all in sync and doing the same Just Running, would you consider writing down some simple guidelines for Just Running?

Overarching themes would be best, such as fore/mid/rearfoot lateral/cental/medial landing patterns, callus and minshoe thickness, permissible cross-sectional air flow and turbulence through each nostril and mouth, artificial vs. synthetic clothing vs skin to air, heart rate, air temperature, asphalt quality, acceptable models of GPS watches, internal liver temperature. Just a few general guidelines would really be helpful! Thanks!!!
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Ha, actually laughed out loud at that one!

Unfortunately just running is a zen practice that can only be taught through koans by monks in monasteries.
 
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Like you, I'm cheating a bit, because most of my viable routes were run with a Garmin last year, so I know the distances, or can consult them in my log. But Google Maps worked just fine before I got the Garmin too. Google gives you the distance down to one tenth of a mile, Garmin down to one hundredth. No biggie. Unfortunately Google Maps changed its format recently, making it less user-friendly, for this user at least. Destroyed my faith in progress.


Ha, actually laughed out loud at that one!

Unfortunately just running is a zen practice that can only be taught through koans by monks in monasteries.
One good thing about running known distances for me is I can gauge my speed as there are times when the same distance that usually takes me 40 mins I can covered it in 35 mins on my good days and in my bad days it takes me 43/45 mins.